"Oh," I say, "all this with Scott Walker, up there in Wisconsin, I'm angry about it, and that's got my mood a bit dark."
"Who's Scott Walker?" he asks.
Which, see, this, I just -- how in shit, how are, how do we even start to win against the Koch Brothers and all the rest of them? How? When 80 or 90 percent of the country isn't even fucking awake?